Menatone None More Black vs ProCo RAT 2
The Menatone None More Black and the ProCo RAT 2 are both pedals sharing saturated, mid-forward, full. The Menatone None More Black leans high gain. The ProCo RAT 2 leans low gain and fuzzy. Current prices: $249 vs $88.
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Blended from circuit-archetype lineage, dynamic feel, tone-signal overlap and tone-vector distance — the tone vector itself is derived from editorial description text, not a measured acoustic signal, so this reflects how similarly the catalog copy describes the two, not a lab measurement. Shown only within a gear class, and only where there's enough evidence to be meaningful.47% — somewhat different
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Genres both listings are associated with.- Metal
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Derived from overlapping tonal signals across both listings.- saturated
- mid-forward
- full
- dynamic
Menatone None More Black
Menatone · pedal
ProCo RAT 2
Proco · pedal
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Citation/mention fame — how often this gear is cited across artist rigs and gear discussion.$249via Reverb
$88via Reverb
The Menatone None More Black is an ultra-high-gain distortion pedal built as a purely discrete circuit with no clipping diodes and no op-amps, giving it an organic, amp-like character that spans 80s hot-rodded-amp tones through modern high-gain metal. Its unusual Suck and Pres controls give deep tonal reach: Suck takes the midrange from scooped-out and gone to thick, vocal, and fat, while Pres governs the top end from smooth to cutting. Gain ranges from vintage hot-rodded-800-style warmth to chaotic, all-out saturation. It suits doom, sludge, and heavy rock players wanting dark, powerful, boutique-quality high-gain distortion with real tonal shaping beyond a simple gain knob.
The ProCo RAT 2 is a classic hard-clipping distortion pedal whose circuit dates to the late 1970s, built around an LM308 op-amp and silicon diode clipping. Its three controls are Distortion, Filter, and Volume, with the distinctive Filter knob acting as a reversed tone control that runs from bright and cutting to dark and warm. Capable of far more than its name suggests, it spans gritty low-gain overdrive, thick midrange distortion, and nearly fuzz-like saturation while keeping notes present and clear even at high gain. It is a staple of punk, grunge, garage, stoner, doom, and alternative rock, and has been used by players from Jeff Beck and Thom Yorke to countless heavy and experimental guitarists. Dynamic and harmonically rich, it cleans up with guitar volume and stays articulate rather than overly compressed.
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Genres this gear is documented as being used in.- Alternative Rock
- Experimental
- Punk
- Grunge
- Hard Rock
- Rock
- high gain
- low gain
- fuzzy
- gritty
- transparent
- sustaining